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		<title>Does 2 Peter 2:1 Contradict Particular Redemption?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 15:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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				<category><![CDATA[Calvinism]]></category>
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		<category><![CDATA[Limited Atonement]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>On a number of occasions people have suggested to me that 2 Peter 2:1 presents a problem for the reformed doctrine of limited atonement.  In fact, it&#8217;s often considered one of the primary proof-texts against limited atonement (along with 1 John 2:2).  Since I was recently asked about this passage again, I&#8217;d like to share my [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://ajgibson.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/tulip.jpg"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-839" title="tulip" src="http://ajgibson.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/tulip.jpg" alt="tulip" width="46" height="130" /></a>On a number of occasions people have suggested to me that 2 Peter 2:1 presents a problem for the reformed doctrine of limited atonement.  In fact, it&#8217;s often considered one of the primary proof-texts against limited atonement (along with 1 John 2:2).  Since I was recently asked about this passage again, I&#8217;d like to share my thoughts.  Peter says:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><em>But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even <span style="text-decoration: underline;">denying the Master who bought them</span>, bringing upon themselves swift destruction.</em> (2 Pet 2:1)</p>
<p>The argument goes like this: Peter here teaches that false teachers in the early church who face a &#8220;<em>swift destruction</em>&#8221; are clearly said to have been &#8220;<em>bought</em>&#8221; by Jesus Christ.  So clearly, even unbelieving false teachers were beneficiaries of the atonement, and therefore it wasn&#8217;t &#8220;limited.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve heard a number of responses to this argument, most of which are inadequate.  I even heard a nationally respected reformed pastor-theologian state that the word translated &#8220;<em>bought</em>&#8221; (<em>agorazo</em>) does not refer to the atonement because it&#8217;s never used elsewhere in Scripture to refer to Christ&#8217;s redemptive work.  While it&#8217;s true that <em>agorazo </em>is not a usual word used in the NT to describe what takes place in redemption, his claim was patently untrue (cf. 1 Cor 6:20, 7:23).</p>
<p>I think the answer is much simpler than that.  It&#8217;s clear that Peter is speaking of <em>unconverted </em>false teachers.  Notice some of his descriptions of them:</p>
<ul>
<li>They face a &#8220;swift destruction&#8221; (v. 1)</li>
<li>The are &#8220;under punishment until the day of judgment&#8221; (v. 9)</li>
<li>They were &#8220;born to be caught and destroyed&#8221; (v. 12)</li>
<li>The are &#8220;accursed children&#8221; (v. 14)</li>
<li>&#8220;For them the gloom of utter darkness has been reserved&#8221; (v. 17)</li>
</ul>
<p>So clearly, Peter is speaking about unconverted false teachers who will spend eternity in hell.  And I think it&#8217;s equally clear that Peter is using real redemption language in verse 1 to describe these same false teachers.  But that&#8217;s not all there is to it.  Interestingly, Peter does something similar at the end of the chapter when he describes them:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><em>&#8220;For if, <span style="text-decoration: underline;">after they have escaped the defilements of the world through the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ</span>, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the last state has become worse for them than the first. For i<span style="text-decoration: underline;">t would have been better for them never to have known the way of righteousness</span> than <span style="text-decoration: underline;">after knowing</span> it to turn back from the holy commandment delivered to them. 22 What the true proverb says has happened to them: &#8220;The dog returns to its own vomit, and the sow, after washing herself, returns to wallow in the mire.&#8221;</em> (2 Pet 2:20-21)</p>
<p>So not only does Peter <em>use real redemption language</em> in verse 1 to describe the false teachers, he also uses <em>real salvation language</em> in verses 20-21 to describe them.  My point is that 2 Peter 2 presents not just a difficulty for the doctrine of limited atonement, but also for the doctrine of the perseverance of the saints (a.k.a., eternal security).  If you want to argue from verse 1 that these false teachers had been truly purchased by Christ&#8217;s blood, thereby disproving particular redemption, then you must also concede that verses 20-21 teach that these false teachers at one time had experienced genuine salvation and had subsequently &#8220;lost&#8221; it.</p>
<p>So we have two options.</p>
<ol>
<li>Concede with our Arminian brothers that salvation was accomplished by Jesus Christ but ultimately hinges upon the will of the individual (thereby denying all 5 points of the Doctrines of Grace), or</li>
<li>Presuppose that Peter is not speaking here of the <em>true</em>, <em>actual </em>conversion of the false teachers, but of a <em>false</em>, <em>apparent </em>salvation that is ultimately demonstrated to be counterfeit (by their departure from sound doctrine).</li>
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<p>Of course, I prefer the second option.  As in other NT passages (eg., Hebrews 6:4ff), Peter is dealing here with people who confess to be followers of Jesus Christ and who even at one time gave evidence of having known Jesus as Lord (v. 19), having been bought by him (v. 1), having known the way of righteousness (v. 20), and of having escaped the defilements of the world (v. 19), but who have since departed from the truth and who, therefore, demonstrate that they never were truly followers of Christ to begin with.  Their redemption by the &#8220;master who bought them&#8221; was apparent, not real, just like their salvation and righteousness were apparent, not real.</p>
<p>Jesus&#8217; atonement for individual sinners cannot be separated from their salvation.  The atonement <em>provides, secures </em>and <em>ensures the </em>final salvation of its beneficiaries.</p>
<p>And as is usually the case with arguments against particular redemption, the one from 2 Peter 2, when followed to its logical conclusion, goes further than my 4-point-Calvinist friends are willing to go.</p>
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		<title>God&#8217;s Sovereignty in Missions</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 14:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>AJ</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Calvinism]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Missions]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>William Carey certainly can&#8217;t be accused of being unevangelistic.  And yet he was an unabashed Calvinist (yes, all 5 of &#8216;em), and in fact, it was his God-centered Calvinist (Pauline) theology drove his passion for people, missions, and evangelism.</p>
<p>Once, after preaching from Acts 14:16 and 17:30 that God commands all men everywhere to repent, Carey was [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Carey_(missionary)">William Carey</a> certainly can&#8217;t be accused of being unevangelistic.  And yet he was an unabashed Calvinist (yes, all 5 of &#8216;em), and in fact, it was his God-centered Calvinist (Pauline) theology drove his passion for people, missions, and evangelism.</p>
<p>Once, after preaching from Acts 14:16 and 17:30 that God commands all men everywhere to repent, Carey was confronted with the following comment by a Brahman who heard his message: &#8220;<em>Indeed I think God ought to repent for not sending the gospel sooner to us.</em>&#8221;</p>
<p>Carey&#8217;s response is classic:</p>
<blockquote><p><a href="http://ajgibson.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/CareyEngraving2.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-322" title="CareyEngraving" src="http://ajgibson.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/CareyEngraving2-194x300.jpg" alt="CareyEngraving" width="116" height="180" /></a>&#8220;To this I added, suppose a kingdom had been long overrun by the enemies of its true king, and he though possessed of sufficient power to conquer them, should yet suffer them to prevail, and establish themselves as much as they could desire, would not the valor and wisdom of that king be far more conspicuous in exterminating them, than it would have been if he had opposed them at first, and prevented their entering the country? Thus by the diffusion of gospel light, the wisdom, power, and grace of God will be more conspicuous in overcoming such deep-rooted idolatries, and in destroying all that darkness and vice which have so universally prevailed in this country, than they would have been if all had not been suffered to walk in their own ways for so many ages past.&#8221;  (from <em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Vision-Missions-Tom-Wells/dp/0851514332/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1206924363&amp;sr=8-1">A Vision for Missions</a></em>, by Tom Wells, p. 13.)</p></blockquote>
<p>Carey&#8217;s wise words betray the following convictions:</p>
<ol>
<li>God is sovereign not only in salvation but also in the course and progress of the gospel throughout history.</li>
<li>God&#8217;s goal in missions is ultimately to make his wisdom, power, and grace conspicuous.</li>
<li>God sometimes sovereignly withholds the gospel from going to certain people in order to accomplish his own God-glorifying purposes (cf. Matthew 10:5-6).</li>
<li>At any moment that he sovereignly chooses to do so, God is perfectly capable of &#8220;overcoming&#8230;deep-rooted idolatries&#8221; and &#8220;destroying all that darkness and vice which have so universally prevailed&#8221; in the world.</li>
<li>God accomplishes this through &#8220;the diffusion of gospel light&#8221; which requires that gospel-bearing messengers participate in his mission (cf. Rom 10:14-15).</li>
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